I am truly hopeful that nothing gets banned. Mono-green Stompy - 2 copies (3%) Interviewing Paul from PDH committee - the Pauper Commander format, Omnath remains in 50% of Standard Challenge's TOP 32 decklists, Interviewing Brad from Pauper Guild: the Pauper Singleton format. Pioneer Delirium by BRG24. Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit because I know they, like me, want to cast their Siege Rhinos and Torrential Gearhulks! They ended up on Nissa as removal and that in itself is good, but not super dependant. Like you use it as a metric to see if theres anything broken going on with the format. [–]Enral 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children). Be the best deckbuilder, and beat the metagame with the biggest MtG decks database, even bigger than mtgtop8. 3rd - Kethis: Lein_ 4th - Mono-G Walker Ramp: rusty_gates. It's one of those cards you have to keep your eye on. Sorin and walking ballista reads kill target creature. Decklists. Zulaport Cutthroat - (G) (SF) (txt) 5. [card](Teferi, Time Raveler) (32 copies) Thanks for the cool list. [Podcast] Crew3 Episode 52 is LIVE! [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (13 children). 2 - Provide ideas with some substance to them. [card](Botanical Sanctum) (40 copies) Decklist Stats Sample Hand. A lot of times people feel the counters are the necessary element of control, and although we have some in the sideboard Pioneer I believe attempts to drive to what Wizards and many viewers like: Interactive, Turn creatures Sideways, Win through damage. I love Green, but damn I think something is going to have to be banned. The deck is a 'control' deck without the counters. Those cards are flexible. Top 8. Mono-black vampires - 1 copy (3%) 7. Here's hoping leyline of abundance is the first to go. [–]Meecht 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Immortal Servitude - (G) (SF) (txt) Pl Deck Player Price; 1st R R R: ShowTime_ 79 tix $ 88 - 2nd Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation: Harry13: 325 tix $ 395 - 3rd Niv to Light Niv to Light Niv to Light: Xerk: 472 tix $ 466 - 4th Burn Burn Burn: DioMagoSrl: 93 tix $ 158 - … PNR 3 / 3 . If there's any ban at all, it should be leyline. T3feri literally changes how the fundamental game of magic is to be played. No. Second, I don't know if you're out there in Reddit world, but thank you for continuing to jam this sweet Vampires deck to success every week. Like you said ballista needs hoops, but if a card comes along that pops scales to be really powerful ballista could be a catalyst as to why that deck is really powerful (since it's kind of a swiss army knife) and get a ban. ", [–]Nickypoo_Loves_You 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (5 children), [–]RedBlackX 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]lvlI0cpu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). I said it needs to be looked at as a valve. Discussing why a card may be too strong for the format, or concerns to the format being inaccessible due to issues like price is fine, but try to keep things constructive. *TOP 10 most played cards in Pioneer Challenge* (without counting basic lands) Rendered by PID 2773 on r2-app-0d1711d03db61de53 at 2020-12-02 13:46:51.765288+00:00 running 31b5616 country code: NL. © 2018 by Cards Realm. All Rights Reserved. [–]skeeler87 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). White Heliod: Phill_Hellmuth. 3º place - Sultai Midrange Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit... Huh, every oponent I've had must each be an anomaly, [–]Aextasis 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Non rotating formats always degenerate into the same pattern. gottelicious (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . That UW midrange deck has me shook. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]kami_inu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). When posting a deck lists, make a text post linking to a deck building site (Archidekt, Scryfall, MTGGoldfish, TappedOut, etc). Lots of Mono G showing up, some cats, some nexus, some RDW. Nyx is so dependent on other cards to be good, and all those other cards can have answers- save for walkers. The best deck appears to be Mono green and your input is to bad a white card that kills a separate deck entirely? Hey, guys! Oh and the dumb card printed called nexus of fate. Ive seen some people trying [[Gate to the Afterlife]] and [[God-Pharoah's Gift]]. That looks amazing. Some solid lines of Haunted dead discarding 1-2 amalgam end step is so good, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (10 children). The only reason he is good is the shell that he is currently in is because of it's ability to make so much mana. Weekly Metagame - Is Magic Healthy Again ? * You can see all the different decks that get posted from Magic Online here. [deck](17426) 9. From Return to Ravnica Forwards. 21. 1. Sultai Midrange - 5 copies (17%) I wish they'd just ban all walkers in Pioneer, now that would make things interesting. The first official decklist dump is coming up on Monday, so this will help everyone planning on participating in the Pioneer Challenge on Sunday or any Paper events at their LGS. UG Okrasis - 3 copies (10%) [card](Felidar Guardian) (36 copies) "We board it out" isn't a great justification for not banning a card. 2 Authority of the Consuls 2 Deafening Silence 2 Deputy of Detention 1 Disdainful Stroke 1 Dovin's Veto 1 Failure // Comply 1 Heroic Intervention 1 Knight of Autumn 2 Mystical Dispute 2 Remorseful Cleric iceiceice (7th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12052914 on 12/29/2019 Decklist … Hello Everyone! Red Deck Wins. I’m playing GB harden Scales and have yet to have mana fixing issues. This weeks Pioneer Challenge decklists (magic.wizards.com), submitted 1 year ago by FastMoreThanTrain, [–]zealousd 59 points60 points61 points 1 year ago (9 children), Players: "I'm glad Wizards is making a new eternal format that won't have Tron in it. 6. Mono Green Devotion is getting hit for sure. A showcase challenge is a monthly mtgo tournament that takes the place of the normal challenge except they cost 40 Qualifier Points to enter. Maybe we'll see another swing in deck construction and it'll correct a bit more? 4º place - Mono-u Devotion [card](Saheeli Rai) (36 copies) Pinging small creatures, or being a ramp/infinite mana sink. No I completely understand it, I've stated in other comments that I believe it or leyline will get the ban hammer in this format. See you tomorrow with more data from the 5-0 Pioneer MTGO tournaments! Every combo deck will play him just to shut down removal / counterspells. 2 Heartless Act 2 Aethersphere Harvester 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet 2 Legion's End 1 Necromentia 3 Self-Inflicted Wound 2 Soul-Guide Lantern Fastfake (9th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 11/29/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand Weekly Metagame - What's the deck to beat? [–]IProto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). T3feri in play for 1000 turns can’t win the game. Nissa seems to be shaking pioneer's world right now. [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), Sorin gives lifelink not deathtouch unless im missing something, [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh,thought it was the war of the spark sorin. Only WotC has access to key data such as play % and win %. Yes, Spike's priority is winning, and they will absolutely play with broken cards in order to achieve that, but I think it's wrong to assume that Spikes automatically like those cards. Yikes, that's a lot of Nissa Who Shakes the World. 14. [–]fubuvsfitch 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Ertai_87 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children). All bets aside the Planeswalker Super Friend package is seriously powerful, and we noted if you can get [[Teferi, Time Raveler]] into a [[Supreme Verdict]] at instant speed, and follow with [[Elspeth, Sun's Champion]] you're in for a good time! 2nd - RW Heroic: _Antoniou_. 5. Pioneer MTG Decks Visit Pioneer forum ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. 13. 12. This is interesting. [–]Maroonwarlock 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children). Any Abzan lists? Nykthos has to go...same with either oko/teferi to hurt the cat combo. [–]ShortsAreComfy 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child), Cats and leylines, cats and leylines everywhere, [–]GibsonJunkie 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]LotusCobra 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children). Doesn't quite roll of the tongue does it? [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). God Pharohs is cool, but I want a mass reanimation spell or a good reason to cycle shitty creatures. We are not here to critique the brew you slapped together without thought. And it itself is only really useful when you know what you need from it. [–]Saheeli-Rai 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children). Close. Magic: The Gathering and its respective properties are copyright Wizards of the Coast. It’ll be much better once they reprint the missing fastlands. [–]tallandgodless -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (7 children). I don't necessarily expect it to be banned later today but I'd be surprised if it doesn't get banned down the road. 4Merfolk Trickster4Siren Stormtamer. I really wish there was a deck in pioneer that was like living end. 2. Today! 10/29/19 No general MTG posts. In need of recommendations for a (mono white) Archangel Avacyn Deck! [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (8 children). [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). Rally the Ancestors - (G) (SF) (txt) This was our first outting with the deck, which I believe showcases its power, we also discuss in one of the matches (may be cut due to editing) how magic has so many lines at times, finding new ones helps us learn! Sadly. Sultai Midrange also appeared with a good percentage of wins. Deck appeared to be weak against the UG Lumbering Falls deck, or hexproof decks as a lot of the removal is targetted. Yeah closest thing I've seen so far unfortunately. We hope to see you all there! The problem is the combo not the supporting cards. I.e. That's a sort of caricature model of Spike that doesn't really hold up to any real people I've met. [Pioneer] - Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists (March 22nd) Pioneer. There have been some [[Rally the Ancestors]] decks floating around that use [[Corpse Celebrant]] and [[Zulaport Cutthroat]] for the kill off [[Cartel Aristocrat]] sacrifices. Sort by: Planeswalker (6) 2 Nahiri, the Harbinger 4 ... Harry13 (2nd Place) bolov0 (3rd Place) mahzinha_linda (4th Place) O_danielakos (5th Place) 6. [–]57messier 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Bloodchief's Thirst 2 Heartless Act 1 Liliana, Waker of the Dead 3 Necromentia 2 Rankle, Master of Pranks 2 Soul Shatter 2 Soul-Guide Lantern AlfredoTorres (3rd Place) Pioneer Challenge #12223586 on 11/01/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand 4 Preliminaries (n=62), 2 Challenges (n=64), 1 Champ Qual (n=32). Albiet copter was easier to build around, but it was still versatile and was able to do what ever deck wanted to do as a cheap cost. By comparison, 10/32 are playing Nissa, Who Shakes the World + Once Upon a Time + Leyline of Abundance. Bant Company - 1 copy (3%) *IS SAHEELI DOMINANT? Search Results for Magic Decks from MTGO Pioneer Challenge - 10/27/2019. I am so sad there are no rhino whip decks or dredgeless dredge decks. At 2 mana ballista is draft chaff and at 8 mana he's a bad glorybringer. MTG DECKS by format It acts as a finisher and removal which green lacks, heavily. 1st - Bant Spirits: lucadaky. [–]CenturionRower 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (10 children). Decklist Stats Sample Hand. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). Even if the creatures don't cycle at least they're shitty! [–]kami_inu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Pioneer really is the format of planeswalkers. But I think that even that's premature as the format may adapt to better deal with the green ramp deck. White Winnie - 1 copy (3%) Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 2020-11-29. There were 32 decklists. Also tef3ri just bounces it away, [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Yes, Ancestral is way more powerful, but Brainstorm lets Spike showcase their skill. Thank you tho. [–]NumberFifteen15 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Ballista is flexible for two things. 9. 1. [deck](17428) [–]Technognomey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]TrishulaMTG 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (22 children). The decks we must need to watch are UR Phoenix and Mono-U Devotion. [–]Ahayzo 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just want to play Esper Gift with Stitcher’s Supplier and Merfolk Secretkeeper, [–]NoxTempus 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), GPG probably can't exist in the same meta as Oko, [–]Bananadan6 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (7 children). PNR 8 / 8 . God Pharaoh's Gift shenanigans is what I really want to see tbh. I’m playing it. Interesting to see prior to the B&R if these results will make a difference. Take away its ability to help that kind of play and you're left with basically a singular free 2 mana spell and 3 normal 3 mana spells. I don’t see that cat combo is an essential part of the format and randomly losing to it feels bad. 11. 8. Also there are a lot of powerful spells in this format I agree, but not thinking ballista is up there is absurd. 3. MTG DECKS: Magic the Gathering top 8 decks database. [–]McWinSauce 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). All participating copies went to the Top 8. Making it so you cant interact with combos is what is the problem. 1º place - Sultai Midrange [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). 158 decklists and 7 Pioneer events posted since my last ZNR post. [–]Wund3rBoi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]aggr1103 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children). it's a finisher that takes an enormous amount of mana or a lot of hoops to make effective. I think the Dredgeless deck feels solid but yeah some lines are blowouts and I've luckily dodged most of the combo decks in practice queues, [–]WebCobra 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I've been playing the GB dredgeless list and it feels really solid. [–]ShoogleHS 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Both are fun. 4 of the top 8 are Monogreen Devotion (including 1st place), and 10 of the top 32 are Monogreen Devotion. The results of the first official Pioneer championship is here now. Idk, I’m having fun with burn too, but the feeling will pass bc I LOVE living end in modern and I just don’t have as much fun playing other decks. I was testing out some non-oko decks against it when it seemed good, but it is going to be a pretty major issue for the deck. Boros Feather - 1 copy (3%) God-Pharoah's Gift - (G) (SF) (txt) it kills the scales deck instantly, so I hope thats not even close to being considered. 41. Being able to fit into multiple types of decks and being a swiss army knife is powerful, not many cards can do that. In your post you must also include: A description of your deck/What it intends to do, Specific questions to stimulate conversation. Hello I never said it needed banned? ", [–]Dimir_Frost_Mage 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children). A card that gets shaved out against removal heavy matchups? If everyone is just casting their spells on their own turn, that reduces the player's options and lessens Spike's ability to conceal information, leverage bluffs, play reactively, and so on. r/PioneerMTG: The Pioneer Format of Magic: the Gathering. Top 8 earned a championship invite token for a tournament in April. Thank you! All posts must be relevant to the Pioneer format. Forgot about the core set one, [–]Enral 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry but they are probably fine. Yes they are strong cards but why must they die in pioneer for standards problems. Which comes of no surprise considering all the overpowered PWs printed in the last six months. However, you'll get a much better response if you come across as someone who knows what's up. I've been on a Zombies list with a very similar gameplan and an extremely similar sideboard, but Sorin is too hot to be ignored, and so I'm switching tribal teams. Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. Mythic (12) 4Brazen Borrower4Master of Waves4Thassa, God of the Sea. Back in Black Midrange by DragonzBane. ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. So my problem with this argument is that it seemingly mis-evaluates the problem. Try to do some metagame testing to get a feel for your deck so you can talk about it better. Both of those do really powerful things but the weaker in the vacuum got banned because it was working with other cards to cause an unbalanced series of play. [card](Elvish Mystic) (32 copies) [–]d7h7n 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (3 children). New ideas are awesome and always welcome. PNR 9 / 8 . Theres a reason there were a number of copies in the top 8, shit it's the reason copter was banned. PNR 41 / 18 . Big Weaklings [Budget Azorius Jank] by C o r r o s i v e _ C a t. PNR 48 / 26 . Welcome to MTG decks!.We collect MtG top decks for Standard, Modern, Legacy, Vintage, Pioneer and many other formats. I mean if you make a list of the top 20 best cards/most powerful cards in pioneer ballista makes that list 100% and you have to discuss those cards as potential bans (in a vacuum) then have to look at why its powerful and see if it's because of another card it seems super strong or is it just because its powerful. 4 Color Midrange — 495 decklists Goblins — 322 decklists Jund Sacrifice — 291 decklists Red Deck Wins — 260 decklists Gruul Aggro — 189 decklists Sultai Midramp — 162 decklists Artifacts Ramp — 111 decklists Azorius Auras — 110 decklists Get the decklists and a complete metagame overview in our Historic section ☝️ There's only 4/32 decks playing Felidar Guardian. Tron needs to go off on turn 3..... turn 2 nissa yup seems fair. [card](Veil of Summer) (40 copies) But if you polled Spikes on whether they would rather play in a format with either Brainstorm or Ancestral being legal, I bet almost all of them would pick Brainstorm. Real flexibility is something like Jitte, JTMS, the swords, tutor cards. It's a powerful card. The deck is not dominating. Spikes hated it when Marvel was a broken deck because whoever gets the first lucky Marvel spin wins the game - there's no outplaying turn 4 Ulamog, and Spikes can't show off the full extent of their skills when piloting such a deck. The fast draws seem inconsistent, but the inevitability/late game is pretty good. Episode 14: Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! SoundCloud The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard ... Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! Press J to jump to the feed. The first Mythic Point Challenge has now wrapped up on MTG Arena, a tournament that players who achieved the top 1200 Mythic ranking in the previous seasons were qualified to participate. 4 - Posts & comments should be constructive. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). That's alot of different synergies in 1 card, which means it's going to get used a lot, thankfully it was developed to a balanced rate (3 mana and it could be too powerful and 5 mana not useful) so that it can be fairly used. ... It’s a really fun deck, it’s not my main Pioneer deck right now but it’s a great change of pace. I literally don’t get people who have it out for T3feri or Oko. How long before/after this was posted were many of these decks made invalid? I want to use Siege Rhinos again! Went 6-3 playing Esper Saheeli. and join one of thousands of communities. March 1, 2020. 10. This sub is for discussion of Magic: The Gathering's Pioneer format. We received this from a community member, and thought we'd take it into the Challenge (though we were close to just running the UG Nexus deck). If it was brought up I hope they guy/gal who did so got some side-eye from the people who know better. Go faster than anyone or go taller than anyone. [deck](17429) Cats did well at first because it's an easy deck to build and everyone knows it's good (it's doing well in modern too right now). a:15:{i:0;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count";s:2:"20";s:9:"card_meta";O:8:"stdClass":2:{s:5:"title";s:6:"Island";s:22:"field_card_image_front";a:0:{}}}i:1;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count"; An expensive pinger that can scale inefficiently and fails the vanilla test is not a swiss army knife. Burn - 2 copies (6%) I would say that T3feri in particular is a problem card for Spikes since proper spell timing is a big differentiator for skilled players. [–]FastMoreThanTrain[S] 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (4 children). * This series is all about the presentation, creation and/or adaptation of unusual or unexplored decks that, nevertheless, works great and provides what all games should provides us with: *fun! People hate on Oko and Teferi but I’m not sure the data says they are ban worthy. OUaT is absolutely a busted magic card and it is absolutely homogenizing green decks which is a prime reason Wizards has banned cards in the past. Deal Another Hand. 7. Currently only enemy colours have them. Corpse Celebrant - (G) (SF) (txt) use the following search parameters to narrow your results: The Pioneer Format of magic the gathering. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. [–]Maroonwarlock 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh I've been playing it too along with an 8rack port I brewed. 1 Extinction Event 2 Fatal Push 1 Brazen Borrower 2 Cry of the Carnarium 1 Damping Sphere 2 Enter the God-Eternals 3 Mystical Dispute 1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World 1 Notion Thief 1 Soul Shatter Snusnumrick (2nd Place) Pioneer Challenge #12218059 on 10/18/2020 Decklist … 75 Cards. Gate to the Afterlife - (G) (SF) (txt) Swiss army knives can do more than one thing, they are very flexible. You can't just jam ballista in any deck and have it perform. [–]FluffyWolf2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), TCG Decklist Link: http://bit.ly/fluffyEsperSuperfriends Ballista fits in that role, albiet at a much more fair cost. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (9 children). UR Phoenix - 3 copies (10%) It needs to go. [1st March] MTGO Pioneer Showcase Challenge Top 32 Decklists. [–]wdingo 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). Provides digging power, but also providing a threat to act as a 'fog' or 'soak up damage' versus a cantrip, Removal for planeswalkers is limited, and creatures must fight through before your walkers take over, Life total must be recognized as a resource, Combo can just get there against the deck, Go wide strategies may overwhelm the deck (Supreme verdict is here as a 4 of, but if you don't draw it...), 1-1 answering is alright, but you will run out of gas if not careful, Stronger "Counter Control" decks or heavier "Tempo Decks" can give your walkers an issue - Think Brazen Borrower, Spell Queller, and decks of this nature, Match 9: Mono Green Devotion (TacoFarmer - 1st Placer Person). Even the vampire deck is running it (assuming because of nyxthos), [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (14 children). Be kind! First off, go Blazers. [card](Llanowar Elves) (34 copies) Do not use this subreddit to sell or trade. The stream will be casted by yours truly along with my cohost on The Pioneer Perspective, Alex! Like if post leyline ban of mono green is still putting up great results and you see ballista as a dump, you might look at nykthos or something that allows the absurd amount of mana to get dumped into it. i don't think ballista is even close to the top 20 most powerful cards in this format. Give the meta time to adjust and see what needs to happen over time. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), I’m just worried about oko, he just ruins the artifact combos. Really we've only had less than 24 hours to really think about how this deck functions and what it did well versus what it did not. Banning Leyline of Abundance is the answer. There is a Dredgeless Dredge it's just much more balanced without the dredge mechanic that it's not good enough to compare to decks like Copycat since a dredge style deck wants to ignore it's opponent but it can't here. Since the unbanning of Oath of Nissa, I, like many of you, were sort of wary of the format.It turns out, Oath of Nissa might have added more wrinkles to the format than previously thought. Rather than casting a 10 mana spell on turn 3 I'm casting a 5 mana spell and then our turn 4 I'm casting a 10 mana spell, maybe. RB Aggro Pirates Win by Ninjew42. Crew the 🛳 Sail the ⛵️ at your opponent Keep in mind this isn't the actual metagame, but the "winners metagame". Thanks! Low-effort posts are subject to removal with an explanation of required changes. news. Everything in between eventually gets squashed, [–]badgersauce1770 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just wanna cast History of Benalia gosh darn it, [–]Stasis20 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (2 children). As we did last week with Pioneer Decklists To Restore Faith In Humanity, we’re back with more sick Pioneer decklists. [card](Breeding Pool) (39 copies) I’d rather see Saheeli go because Felidar still can do interesting things elsewhere, but it’s also the card they screwed up on the templating so it’s the likely hit between that and being a rando uncommon, [–]Existenz81 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Bananadan6 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). Notes: There are likely many punts, lines, and misplays. Some people like playing them. Being good in a powerful shell is not the same as being individually powerful. What is so strong about the late game we have? [–]AncientFudge1984 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Archived [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. the free 4 mana spell that, with a perfect draw, let's me cast ulamog on turn 3. Yeah very true. Posted by 7 months ago. This is actually probably on the table for discussion in regards to bans towards mono green. StarCityGames.com® is the world's largest Magic the Gathering store, with an inventory that includes an extensive selection of out-of print sealed product and over 20,000,000 individual cards! [–]Jolraels_Centaur_OP 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children), Urza: "With these three lands, I can cast an Ulamog on turn four! Azorius Control. [–]Kriznick 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (5 children). Decklists. [–]Enral 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child). Theres also 4 ways ballista can be used because its dual type (delirium enabler) uses counters (hardened scales), scales infinitely (ramp) and is a pinger (removal). What did we see? PNR 1 / 1 . Broken? Thank you all so much! [–]PHOthrowaway88 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]crossjenkins 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Bananadan6 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (21 children). 2. The deck was the big bet in this tournament. If this was hearthstone, it would get nerfed from 5 to 4 and probably be fine most of the time. What pay offs do we have? Dimir Inverter: Phizzle. [–]Res_Novae 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Decklist with description 🙋🏽‍♂️: “Scuse me sir/madam, I don’t wanna read, how’s it work?” 🤫: “TL:DR: Turn 1 - [[Consulate Dreadnaught]] -big boat⛴, Turn 2 - [[Kroxa]] with triggers on the stack, crew the boat 🛳, then swing with 7/11 🛳, Turn 3 - [[Claim//Fame]] the Kroxa. 3. It's easy, just don't be a jerk. [–]heyzeto 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]VideoCook 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Spirits. *METAGAME* [–]ThisHatRightHere 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]lordofthehomeless 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). 4. In my experience, Spikes will play anything, but what they like is for the format to be conducive to skill-intensive games of Magic where they can outplay their opponent. Shit look at what happened between stirrings and looting. Pioneer Delirium by BRG24. Boros … They're clearly not Johnny cards, they make Timmy and Spike angry, Vorthos probably doesn't care if they're tournament legal, so who are these cards for exactly? But it is? PNR 1 / 1 . Legends of Runeterra and its respective properties are copyright Riot Games. Top 8. [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children). [deck](17430) Its dumb once and that's it. [–]Ahayzo -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children), If they’re being super aggressive, I don’t expect Teferi to last more than a month, Oko isn’t banworthy though (yet). [–]NoxLD 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Enral 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Journeyman351 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). The thing is they don’t make Spike angry. I'm Ariel and this is *All Against Arena. They make Spike spend a ton of money to get it and win. Interestingly 7 of the top 8 in this list were mono colored decks, 4 Green, 2 Red and 1 Black. Apologies about the delay, but the newest episode of The Pioneer Perspective is now live! 1039 decklists and 50 events since ZNR released (29 Prelim, 21 Premier). 5º place - Saheeli Cat Sort by: Planeswalker (9) 1 Chandra, Awakened ... Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . Saheeli was dominant in the field, but appeared poorly in the Top 8. Posted by 23 days ago [Pioneer] - Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists (March 22nd) Pioneer. It’s fun, but it feels bad. [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (12 children), I mean I'm sure its lower on the list but I'm sure it was discussed. The Recycling Plant [Mono-Green Artifact Combo] by C o r r o s i v e _ C a t. PNR 20 / 18 . 8. [–]Instant-Speed-Scoop 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]ThisHatRightHere 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). God damnit dude, seriously? Yeah, and that one time is all it takes to make sure any deck playing it has 3 mana on turn 2 almost all of the time. [card](Oath of Nissa) (43 copies) Be excellent to each other and follow basic reddiquette. I thought before i saw these results Once Upon a Time was likely up first, but it may actually be Nyxthos up first considering the Black list even had them. You're doing god's work, sir/madam. *TOP 5 DECKLISTS* GB Midrange - 1 copy (3%) This is not the place to post low-effort content, pics of your foiled out deck, sweet booster pack pulls, or general MTG questions/comments. This card was totally fine in standard, and is totally fine in modern where it kills people on turn 4. Would be very surprised if the deck didn't lose something today after this weekend. 4. Sunday, Wizards of the Coast published all the decklists from our [link](https://cardsrealm.com/tourners/official/pioneer/2019-10-27/pioneer-challenge)(first Pioneer Challenge). It’s fine in 2 colours. This deck prays on that type of thought, while still keeping to the 'turning creatures sideways' they may just be tokens! I commend them for trying to actually make a free spell fair but they missed the mark once again on this one. If you gave Spike the choice of either a playset of Brainstorm or a playset of Ancestral in their deck, of course they'd go with the Ancestral. Give it time, once the most un-fair decks are either banned out/weakened by bans, we'll see room for the mildly un-fair. Not to mention, that while it has late game inevitability, I don't think it matches the late game power of mono-green even post banning. [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. UW control - 1 copy (3%) That is more aristocrats than LE style. Close. Dimir Inverter: Thattaman. If you take a way t3feri, you will still die to the combo as there are other ways of protecting it: in the case of copy cat most of them run 3-4 veil. [–]ShoogleHS 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry. [deck](17427) I’ll look into lists, but it’s not really my style. StarCityGames.com® is the world's largest Magic the Gathering store, with an inventory that includes an extensive selection of out-of print sealed product and over 20,000,000 individual cards! Cartel Aristocrat - (G) (SF) (txt) What kind of backwards idea is that? Do you have any mana issues without access to green along with Oath of Nissa or other fixing? Interesting that no mono blue devotion lists made the cut. 1st - Bant Spirits: lucadaky. Auras Hexproof - 1 copy (3%) [–]Thereisnocomp2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]PocoTheTurtle 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (19 children), 16 walking ballistas in the top 8 decks. I missed top 32 on breakers. [–]TrishulaMTG 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]RayWencube 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]d7h7n -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children). Why ban marquee mythics/rates when you can just ban the cat? Decklist Stats Sample Hand. Thank you everyone for your patience and understanding as we had some scheduling conflicts due to the Holliday as well as a ton of technical difficulties for this episode. And like stirrings, I believe this will be fine, it's the other cards that enable degenerate and really powerful stuff. [–]TrishulaMTG 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Probabky not enough, [–]tallandgodless -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (11 children). Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. Saheeli Cat - 9 copies (27%) Rare (27) 4Mutavault4Harbinger of the Tides4Tempest Djinn4Smuggler's Copter3Sorcerous Spyglass4Spell Pierce4Tidebinder Mage. 2º place - UR Phoenix Your comment gives me the impression that you don't quite understand exactly why cheap / free card selection spells have historically been problematic in various formats. [–]hsc92587 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), Almost like the mana fixing in the format isn’t great or something, [–]AdrianRWalker 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Now supporting MTG Arena decks!. Don't Be a Corpsejack Menace to Society... by G a t t i s o n. PNR 8 / 6 . 10. I have no idea why everyone is so set on them banning cards. Don't worry, let the format solve itself. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 2773 on r2-app-0d1711d03db61de53 at 2020-12-02 13:46:51.765288+00:00 running 31b5616 country code: NL. Because it was the first Challenger, many came up with the decks they liked best on Standard or believed to be the best deck. This Top 10 cards most played represents most of the cards played in "Saheeli Cat" deck. This week the guys discuss the newly crowned monarch on the Pioneer throne before heading into the OR for a little deck doctoring on listener submitted deck lists. Top Pioneer Metagame decks Mono Black. [card](Oko, Thief of Crowns) (35 copies) Mono-u Devotion - 1 copy (3%) I feel like mono green has become the Tron of the format. * Blanket/low-effort complaints aren't helpful. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Stream The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard AND Pioneer by Arena Decklists from desktop or your mobile device. There will always be combo decks. Challenge Youtube Matches: https://youtu.be/mZIlMkS9s0I (Uploading/Processing as of this Post - Quality will improve once Youtube finishes processing!). And for the nissa deck, we do have board wipes. claudioh (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12206264 on 09/13/2020. This unofficial "decklist dump" is far from complete though, so please let me know of any 4-1 of better decklists you know of and I'll add those to the spreadsheet.